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Temecula mosque proposal targeted in pending protest


Friday, July 23rd, 2010
Issue 29, Volume 14.
Tim O'Leary
Valley News Staff
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Plans to build a permanent mosque near two existing Temecula churches are expected to be the target of an organized protest next week.

The development plan that the Islamic Center of Temecula submitted to city planners about 1˝ years ago has drawn muted concerns so far and triggered widespread media coverage that has included stories by the Associated Press and newspapers based in Los Angeles and Riverside.

If an announced July 30 protest materializes, it could mark an escalation of questions and criticism surrounding plans to develop a mosque at the city’s northeast corner. The facility that has served the region’s Muslims for about 12 years would move from an industrial park to Nicolas Road if the development plan comes to fruition.

City officials could be snared in a religion-tinged controversy as the project proceeds through the review process. It has been about seven years since a similar controversy began to unfold in the city that is now home to more than 100,000 residents.

"We are limited to looking at land use issues, not religious or political issues," Patrick Richardson, the city’s director of planning and redevelopment, said in a Monday afternoon telephone interview. "Everybody has the right to practice their religion as they see fit."

Richardson did not work for Temecula when a similar controversy surfaced over another proposed house of worship. He said he has since learned about the twists and turns that occurred when the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints submitted a proposal nearly a decade ago to build a facility along Pauba Road.

The Mormon controversy contains parallels to the mosque proposal.

The Islamic Center has owned its Temecula site – which totals four acres at Nicolas Road and Calle Medusa – for about 10 years, Richardson said. The Islamic Center has operated in Temecula since 1998, and is based in an industrial park on the city’s west side.

The Islamic Center is proposing to build a 24,950-square-foot mosque. Its building size and acreage would roughly mirror that of two nearby churches – Calvary Baptist Church and Grace Presbyterian Church. The number of parking spaces proposed for the mosque exceeds the city’s requirements, Richardson said.

Because of traffic, noise and related concerns raised by a nearby pastor and others, the city has examined a range of issues as it has reviewed the development plan, he said.

Richardson said the review process has unfolded slowly in part because the Islamic Center, like many churches do when they build new facilities, has relied on some of its members to perform various planning- and development-related tasks.

"We’ve pretty much completed our review," Richardson said. The site’s zoning designation allows the construction of a church at that location, he said.

A May 27 letter from the city to Hadi Nael, an Islamic Center representative, indicated that the mosque proposal might come before Temecula planning commissioners on July 7. On June 22, Richardson wrote a letter to Nael indicating that the hearing would likely be postponed until Aug. 18.

That’s still possible, Richardson said, although he noted in the interview that the hearing date is "somewhat of a moving target." At the time of the interview, Richardson said he was unaware that a loose-knit coalition of area residents is planning a demonstration at the Islamic Center’s existing facility along Rio Nedo west of Murrieta Creek.

An e-mail alert sent to area newspapers last week announced that a one-hour "singing – praying – patriotic rally" will begin at 12:30 p.m. July 30 at the Islamic Center’s existing facility. The advisory – sent by a leader of a conservative coalition that has been active with Republican and Tea Party functions – recommended participants "bring your Bibles, flags, signs, dogs and singing voices."

"We will not be submissive," the notice proclaimed. "Our voices are going to be heard!" The alert went on to question what its authors described as Islamic beliefs. It suggested that participants sing during the rally because Muslim "women are forbidden to sing." It suggested that rally participants bring dogs because Muslims "hate dogs."

The advisory asked rally participants to "please bring a pooper scooper" if they are accompanied by a canine companion. The advisory said residents of an unspecified Tennessee community were able to halt the construction of a mosque in that state.

Telephone messages left Monday and Tuesday at the Islamic Center seeking comment on the planned demonstration were not returned.

The center’s Internet site provides information the mosque plan. The center’s April newsletter said: "In the next two years, our new board will focus on the building project. We need a home! It is the dream of our community."

It went on to say: "We as a Muslim believe that the Murrieta and Temecula Valley will be a better community by having the Islamic Center, place of worship, place of education and a place for interfaith. More than ten years ago, we were welcomed by many good friends in different churches; and for the last five years we were one of the founders of the Murrieta and Temecula Valley Interfaith Council. Thus we are working together with all our community religious groups to bring more understanding, tolerance and respect among people of faith in our valley. We hope that you can help in building our Center."

An update in the center’s May newsletter asked members to "…pray that Allah Taala open the hearts and the mind of our city officials to help us to bring this project to life."

The last major controversy to unfold in Temecula over a proposed house of worship centered on plans to open a Mormon church on a 4.7-acre parcel along Pauba Road near Linfield Christian School.

That controversy surfaced in March 2003 when neighbors of the proposed 24,287-square-foot facility began to cite a range of concerns. The residents complained that they were already besieged by traffic going to and from numerous existing churches and public and private schools in the area.

They also raised concerns that night and weekend activities at a Mormon church would harm their neighborhood’s quality of life.

About 130 people jammed a four-hour city Planning Commission hearing a year later, and about 35 of them alternately spoke for or against the development plan. A series of hotly debated hearings on the proposal ended when the City Council approved the 287-seat church in October 2004.

A Mormon church was subsequently built at that location.


 

114 comments

Comment Profile ImageArejay
Comment #1 | Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Many people are growing sick and tired of the muslim religion whose followers are planning on building a mosque near ground zero. They claim they are building the mosque as a bridge between the muslims and the rest of the community. But it is permissible to lie to infidels and it is really nothing more than an intentionally insensitive monument to the Muslim community’s greatest triumph over the great Satan USA.
Comment Profile ImageCitizen Kane
Comment #2 | Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:38 pm
I can understand being concerned about Islamic extremists, they scare me too, but this protest against the Islamic Center seems ridiculous and unamerican. I've neither seen nor heard any reports, in all the years Muslims have been meeting here, of them being a problem. I've known and worked with some of them here and they were all good people. I do wish they would be more outspoken against the extremists, but the same can be said of my fellow Christians in regard to Christian extremists.
Comment Profile ImageMike
Comment #3 | Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Why Temecula?? There can't be that many "Muslims" living here! If they wanna build a Mosque there's no way anyone can stop construction if they pass all codes and city regulations. But, it will be a definate target for vandals and extremists! I hope they build it somewhere else!!
Comment Profile ImageEd Dart
Comment #4 | Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:38 pm
What in the world are these people thinking. Are there no Blacks or Mexicans to pick on in Temecula? When people make racists statements like “bring dogs because Muslims hate dogs." Then maybe their cause is not just. What next White Sheets with Hoods?
We live in Southern California, not Southern Mississippi. If a person of faith wants to build a Mosque, Church, or Temple, then those are the kind of people that Temecula needs. It is easy to HATE, but not worth our time.
Comment Profile ImageAhmed
Comment #5 | Sunday, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:11 am
People that are protesting against a mosque, are extremist. How could you be so naive, thinking all muslims are terrorist and what not. All the muslims want is a place of worship, such as the two churchs have. If that a crime then this is not America.
Comment Profile ImageArejay
Comment #6 | Sunday, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Some of the extremists who flew jets into the WTC on 9/11 attended a "mainstream" mosque in San Diego yet none of the mainstream muslems lifted a finger to report their radical views.
Comment Profile ImageAhmed
Comment #7 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:04 am
Im sure they were not out in the open, telling everyone what they where up to. On another note, we cannot take responsibility for other adults actions. There are many Christians and Jews who have done outrageous things, yet we do not point the finger to their religious followers. So why Islam?
Comment Profile Imagelook within
Comment #8 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:05 am
We are being lied to AMERICA. Forget conspiracy theories and just do the moral math.
Lack of Morality + Loss of Humility= Our Children.
Take that to the second power and that equals to DECADENCE!!
So do the math yourself and if you have a different answer than throw the first stone. If not lets use that stone to build the new walls our nation cries out for. Too Bad That Includes All Races And Colors. If Your Formula Is Different You Do Not Belong In The HOME OF THE FREE. Yes I do understand freedom cost, But I think mostly all of us have had a relative or ancestor that shed his blood for our Religious freedom. GOD would approve of all men who try to find Him. God Bless All my Christian Brothers and you too my Muslim Close Cousin but relatedThrough ONE LORD GOD.
Comment Profile ImageChris
Comment #9 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:17 am
This is the 2nd time I've felt utterly embarrassed to live in this area! First, it was the Prop 8 rallies. Now people are scared of a mosque and a religion most of them know nothing about. I'm not a fan of any type of religion but HELLO! This is America! Ever heard of freedom of religion? Or is that just for Christians?

"bring your Bibles, flags, signs, dogs and singing voices."??? Gee, how mature. Are the bibles supposed to make the point "My religion is better than your religion?"....Are the flags to show that a mosque is somehow un-American? And I'm sure some of these crazy protesters will drag their children to this "rally" and make them carry signs of hate and fear. What a wonderful image for our city.
Comment Profile Imagetom
Comment #10 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:22 am
The email supposedly promoting a protest was, according to The Californian, anonymous. So, a huge story is being manufactured out of an anonymous email. What does this tell you about our local news organizations?
Comment Profile ImageJulie
Comment #11 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:23 am
I can't speak for the Californian, but The Valley News source wasn't anonymous. We actually talked to people.
Comment Profile ImageDonna Sue
Comment #12 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Are these people for real? If this was the KKK targeting African American Churches the city council would not be acting so "neutral". What the heck is this country coming to? This type of hatred is no different than other extremists like Al-Qaeda. It is disgusting that anyone would show up to disrupt prayer services for any faith.
FYI-I am a Muslim woman and I sing all the time, no one is going to care about your singing and we don't hate dogs. Part of the Islamic faith is to care for, not harm animals. Many Muslims choose not to have animals in their homes because of cleanliness issues. Get your facts straight before you espouse your bigoted propaganda!
Comment Profile ImageIQBAL MARFANI
Comment #13 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I'm a Muslim and American. I wish people who are against Muslims in general and do not like the religion called ISLAM than they have two choices: (1) Read (Quraan & Hadith), attend some lectures in the Mosque or go on authentic website about ISLAM and find out the truth, have all questions answered by educated practicing Muslim Scholars about the women, dogs, etc. OR (2) Read the American history and the Constitution of America. The Reader will get all his answers what is in the Quraan and Hadith. Islam is not a new Religion. Islam started from Prophet Adam to Prophet Nova to Prophet Abraham to Prophet Moses to Prophet Jesus and to Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon all of them). Quraan expalins about the birth of Prophet Jesus and virgin mother Mary and second coming of Prophet Jesus. Islam is the oldest religion on the earth sent by the Creator of the Universe.
Comment Profile ImageShih Tzu
Comment #14 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:42 pm
This is completely outrageous. How can the city allow Muslims to build a mosque, right here in the United States of America? Next thing you know, Christians will be asking to build churches and Jews will demand the right to construct synagogues. IT IS TIME WE TOOK A STAND!
Comment Profile ImageChris
Comment #15 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Stop bible bashing and look at your constitution people. It's 2010. Grow up. No one is taking away your right to peacefully assemble. No one is taking away your right to religion. However a number of you seem to do that. Keep your church in your church and out of the law. You are in a democracy, not a theocracy. If you want to live in a theocracy, I point you to Iran or Saudi Arabia, or even the biblical book of LEVITICUS that you choose to largely ignore (except when it comes to gays).

Is that the America you want?
Comment Profile Imageshark
Comment #16 | Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:45 pm
From some of the posts on this board. It seems as though anonymous has some supporters.

The Cristian extremists who have no regards for our Constitution or Bill of Rights.
Comment Profile ImageCanuckistani
Comment #17 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:17 am
Congratulations 'merkins, most of you are not insane.
Do the planet a favour, compost yer teabags!
Comment Profile ImageMJ
Comment #18 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:19 am
If there's a counter-protest, bring textbooks; I hear these "christians*" hate 'em.

*CINO is more like it
Comment Profile ImageMitch
Comment #19 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:20 am
Arjay, Re the proposed mosque for downtown New York (two blocks from the site of the former World Trade Center) ... Muslims have been worshipping at building two blocks from the WTC site for ages now and merely want to build a new building. And there's another mosque four blocks away. How close does a mosque have to be to offend you? Amazing how people cling to their own religious freedoms according to the Constiution yet are eager to deny that same freedom to others.
Comment Profile ImageLinda
Comment #20 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:20 am
These comments make me as happy as the sunshine this morning (after too many weeks of June Gloom at the beach). So there are a few IGNORANT and UGLY NUTS in southern california. We could be in many other states where this ugliness is the norm. Maybe there are more reasonable and good people in this country afterall. Maybe, as this morning sun rises, so shall the voice of reason (and perhaps love) rise up and begin to STOP all the ignorant, ugly and insane actions that are being done in our name all over the world.
Comment Profile ImageTom
Comment #21 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:20 am
The amazing thing to me is that the right-wingers who oppose Mohammedan community centers are often the same people who rant about "private property rights" and that "the government can't tell me what to do on my land!" But now they want to tell other people what they can't do on THEIR private property!
Comment Profile ImageCmurda
Comment #22 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:21 am
WE need to STOP the building of CHRISTIAN churches in Temecula.
Comment Profile ImageHussayn from AL
Comment #23 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:21 am
To Conservative Christians religious freedom means being able to call people a f@ggots in public and protesting any mosque, "because Islam isn't REALLY a religion" Grow up. More Muslims died as victims of terrorism on 9-11 then as perpetrators, but people are all to willing to politicize those deaths.
Comment Profile ImageRonbo
Comment #24 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:22 am
If you think the crazy extremist thugs who committed 9/11 represent all Muslims, then Osama and Al Qaeda win. That's what he wants, to make Americans frightened and angry enough to think a billion Muslims are the enemy, when the real enemy is a few thousand extemists under Osama. Its like thinking that the Mormon fundamentalists who marry off 14 year olds to their uncles somehow represent all Christians, and getting angry at a proposal to build a Catholic church.
Comment Profile ImagePilgrimSoul
Comment #25 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:22 am
Religious liberty is not negotiable. People may not like Islam, but that's okay--let them practice whatever religion they like, or no religion. But they don't have the right to stop Muslims, Sikhs or other religious minorities from worshiping as their conscience dictates! The Tea Party crosses a red line when they try to do that, one that marks them as neo-fascists trying to divide Americans along religious lines and stir up trouble in the community.


People who oppose Mosques almost always fall into two groups. First, there are ultra-conservative Christian evangelicals who believe that a religious war between Islam and the West would be a good thing because it will bring Jesus back to earth. Secondly, there are people who are passionate about Israel, who think they are helping Israel by disseminating religious bigotry against Muslims, when in reality they hurt the cause of Israel when they do this. (This second group often has strong connections with extreme right-wing groups in Israel and Europe and sometimes receive funding from them.)


The latest group to systematically try to stop Muslims from building Mosques is called "Stopping the Islamization of America (SIOA)," an operation of Robert Spencer, an established and particularly ignorant Islamophobe. The SIOA is recruiting from the Tea Party, and managed to stop a Mosque in Staten Island. The Tea Party people in Staten Island simply disrupted the public hearing on the Mosque, causing the facilitator to adjourn the meeting. In other words, the Tea Party recruits are likely to simply scream and make noise to suppress dialogue, which of course at the same time intimidates some people.


What is needed in this debate is for some real patriots to step up and support Religious Liberty.
The local Christian churches need to speak up as quickly as possible. Perhaps Muslim leaders could make Jummah (Friday) prayer open to all faiths, and that way make it an interfaith event. That would give the good Americans a chance to stand with a vulnerable minority as the neo-fascist types try to intimidate them. One hopes the good people--particularly those involved with the local interfaith group--stand with their Muslim neighbors. Our prayers go out to our Muslims neighbors in their time of need.


Lawrence Swaim
Executive Director
Interfaith Freedom Foundation
P.O. Box 6862
Napa CA 94581
707-965-9687
Comment Profile ImageSqueakyRat
Comment #26 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:23 am
"Why Temecula?" Good question, Mike! It would be irresponsible not to speculate about why Muslims want to build a mosque where there are no Muslims. Top of my list: 1. So-called "mosque" will emit terror-rays to convert household pets to Islam. 2. Imams want in on the altar-boy action. 3. Mid-term elections coming up.
Comment Profile Imagesnuh
Comment #27 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:23 am
"But it is permissible to lie to infidels"

what is the point of this statement? it is also permissible for muslims to tell the truth to infidels, so it's not as if it helps us distinguish truth from lies.
Comment Profile ImageJames
Comment #28 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:23 am
The right-wingers in America claim to love the Constitution, but here we see the truth. They hate the First Amendment's promise of religious freedom for all. Bigots are not good Americans. Cowardly people who quake in terror at the thought of a Muslim living down the street are not good Americans. In other words, right wingers are not good Americans--they're nothing but cowardly fools afraid to really embrace freedom and liberty.
Comment Profile Imagetm
Comment #29 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:24 am
Remember when bigots and racists were embarrassed to say these kinds of things out loud? Good times.
Comment Profile Imagemuslims are vermin
Comment #30 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:24 am
no place in america for this 7th century cult or the filthy third world vermin who follow it.
Comment Profile ImageJason
Comment #31 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:25 am
Clearly, the problem is that the Temecula mosque would be located too close to the former World Trade Center. I'm sure if they moved it down the road to Escondido, no one would be complaining.
Comment Profile Imageraincntry
Comment #32 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:27 am
It's just sad that people can't get past their hatred for what they don't understand. American citizens, be they muslim, christian, or jewish, have every right to worship however they see fit. That includes the right to build houses of worship, provided they don't run afoul of local land use regulations.

It's time we remind the public that we are not involved in a religious war with Islam. Our country was attacked by a radicalized faction that was bent on bringing about a holy war. Those people are no more reflective of the Islamic faith than Scott Roder, the person who shot George Tiller, is of all Christianity.
Comment Profile ImageJKle1016
Comment #33 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:28 am
Its hilarious. These teabaggers led by Rick R.... and Bob K..... say they love the Constitution and the Bible.....BUT only when it supports their ideology of hate, prejudice and discrimination. We are losing our country to yellow-bellied bullies with guns. Be afraid, be VERY afraid is their cowardice battle-cry. They are cowards and are dead wrong. Jefferson, Washington and Franklin are shaking their heads in disgust.
Comment Profile ImagePaul NYC
Comment #34 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:30 am
I've lived in New York my entire life and have only benefited from sharing this city with more ethnicities than many of the anti-Muslim people could even name. I also lived through 9/11 when for most of that awful day, I thought my brother and close friend had both been killed (luckily, neither were). I'm more than a little tired of people from towns that are safely away from any danger peeking their heads out from under their beds to be all indignant about "Ground Zero". My advice to people like this is to simply keep your mouths shut about something you are incapable of understanding. I hate what those criminals did on 9/11 but also hate the kind of ignorance that condemns and entire people for the acts of a few.

On another note, I personally know a lot more people that have something against the Catholic Church (having suffered their abuse) than they do against Muslims yet I don't hear any of them saying a place of worship should not be built because of their enmity. The entire notion is silly.

Finally, there already is a mosque in lower Manhattan that was there long before 9/11 happened. The proposal is for an Islamic center and a place for community outreach -- a place that all people would be welcome. As a New Yorker, people who don't live here don't get a say.
Comment Profile Imagegregg
Comment #35 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:31 am
Wow, Tea Bag Partiers continue to make fools of themselves. History will not judge these xenophobes kindly. I'm embarrassed for Temecula.
Comment Profile ImageNot a hater
Comment #36 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:31 am
Just insert the word "Jews" into this discussion, or Buddhists, or Catholics. How about a rally against Jews building a synagogue, or a rally against Buddhists building a temple, or Catholics building a church? Doesn't matter what these people think they are doing, it's pure and simple bigotry. It's also unconstitutional to discriminate on the basis of religion. Tea Party people love to say they are patriots and love the Constitution. Well, stand up and be a patriot by loving the Constitution, and the first amendment. It doesn't just apply to Christians. It applies to all religions in our country. Period. The rest is just pure and simple bigotry and hate. And that's not only bigotry, it's unAmerican.
Comment Profile ImageFazal Awan
Comment #37 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:32 am
In the religion of Islam one is not allowed to lie especially when it would benefit him
Comment Profile ImageKarla D.
Comment #38 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:33 am
I'm planning a rally at the local Tea Party churches. Be sure to bring porn and liquor and heavy metal music and lottery tickets. We will not be submissive! Well, some of us will be. The rest of us will bring whips and paddles.
Comment Profile ImageCajsa
Comment #39 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:33 am
Freedom of religion is a right - not a privilege. What that means is that it is innate, something we have by virtue of birth that no government can take from us without due process such as felony conviction. When racists and xenophobes such as these try to limit the rights of people unlike themselves, they are really trying to convert our rights into privileges - held only at the whim of the government. Be careful what you wish for haters, because the tide is turning against you - and those rights you despise and destroy today will be all that will protect you in the future.
Comment Profile ImageBSR
Comment #40 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:33 am
I want every Christian here to disavow every act of right wing Christian terrorism that has happened in my lifetime. Specifically I refer to the Oklahoma city bombing, the Olympic bombing and several dead doctors. Also the more recent Holocaust Museum assault.

Until every Christian disavows these acts we should be burning down Church's and doing our best to chase this terrorist cult out of our great country.
Comment Profile ImageRobaby
Comment #41 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:35 am
1. Judaism/Christianity commands offensive and aggressive and unjust crusade(see book of Joshua, Numbers, Deutronomy, 1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB).

2. Judaim/Christianity condones murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

3. Jewish and Christian Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) A woman must marry her rapist. What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker?

4. Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)It is clear that God doesn't give a d.... about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".

5. Judaism and Christianity command Kill Homosexuals "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

6. Mosaic Law of the Jews allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge—physical eye for physical eye.

7. Judaism and Christianity command death for Adultery: If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

8. Judaism and Christianity command death for fornication: A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

9. Judaism and Christianity command death to followers of Other Religions(Exodus 22:19 NAB)

10. Judaism and Christianity commands the killing Nonbelievers They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

11. Death to Apostates(which violates the US constitution, thus you can't reconcile the bible with the bill of rights): If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

12. Death for Blasphemy(violation of freedom of speech) (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

See how easily the tables can be turned?
Comment Profile ImageTrey
Comment #42 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:40 am
As a recent returnee from Iraq, I can tell you we have virtually hundreds of thousands of moderate allied Muslims fighting "ON OUR SIDE". The religious prejudice shown here is shameful. Makes me wonder what the hell we are fighting for. For if any of you protestors had a clue, you would understand this is exactly the reaction Al Queda would have wanted. You are ceding them victory by turning on other Americans. Again...shameful
Comment Profile ImageTerry Olson
Comment #43 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:41 am
Everyone's mad. And we have darn good reasons to be mad. Corporations and the top 2% of income earners are getting all of our money and all the tax breaks. But people, let's not take it out on each other. Let's stop supporting the corporations and shop/dine/vacation locally. Let's elect people who support the people rather than the corporations. Let's not take our fury out on each other. Freedom of religion is what brought the Puritans to America. Buck up. Show a little American strength instead of cowering because people want to build a place to worship. How weak has America become? Our representative in Congress, Darrell Issa, is of Lebanese origin, and has plenty of Corporate sponsors, folks. Check: http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2009/09/113793,xcitefun-congratulations-cards1246647570-591.jpg
Comment Profile ImageKev
Comment #44 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:41 am
I wonder how people like Glenn Beck feel to know that bigots like these came after Mormons first. Who are the real extremists in the U.S.?
Comment Profile ImageJanie
Comment #45 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:42 am
It appears that some of our neighbors are equating all Muslim people with Al Quida, the hate-filled faction that brought down the twin towers. Seems to me that is akin to equating all Americans with the klu klux clan. Stop the hate. Read a book!
Comment Profile ImageBuckeyeWench
Comment #46 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:40 am
Religious & Non-Religous Peoples of the Earth,

Please be advised your application for the practice of religious freedom has been denied.

Despite any silly thing you may have read in our Constiution, there is no such thing as freedom of religion in the United States. While we do allow for multiple denominations of Judeo-Christian faiths to freely worship, and freely consturct places of worship, it must be expected that Christians will work to disallow these same freedoms to any other religious faith traditions in their communities. This intolerance may also be deployed at the national level through badly misspelled 'twits', seeking to incitw more vehement displays of religious intolerance, presumably to win votes by appealing to biogtry on an alleged 'patriotic' level.

If you are non-religious and have no desire to be bombarded with Christian doctrine on the regular, you are sadly out of luck as any objection to public christian practice will be deemed an attempt to restict the religious freedoms of American Christians everywhere.

Please note, this hypocracy will be be as ignored as the bigotry that fuels it within most christian and conservative organizations. Resistance is futile, and may result in your being labeled a Terrorist. Some christian practitioners may even defend such intolerance as strict adherance to Christian theology, or a justified response to a sitting president they did not vote for.

But thanks anyway for thinking religious freedom was worth seeking in the US. Its truly a shame when we must advise tax paying americans that certain freedoms promised to them in our founding documents cannot be realistically implemented because they do not love them some Jesus. So perhaps the best solution is to begin the conversion process to a christianity so that you too can be considered a REAL american!

Sincerely,
American Christians who aint Bigots
Comment Profile ImageElwood Blues
Comment #47 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:45 am
Will this protest be crossing a bridge at any point? Cause I'm revving up the Bluesmobile.
Comment Profile ImageFarid
Comment #48 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:45 am
Reading the comments here has been refreshing. It is good to know that most of us still recognize bigotry for what it is, and understand what the Constitution is all about.
Comment Profile ImageKevin
Comment #49 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:45 am
This is a good opportunity to look at the ridiculousness of ALL religions. The hate from the “christians” is pretty standard stuff. It always amazes me that one group of individuals who believe in the supernatural have a problem with another group of folks because their belief in the supernatural is different, or put another way; my believe in nonsense is better than your belief in nonsense. Has there ever been a larger waste of time?
Comment Profile ImageEileen
Comment #50 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:46 am
Seriously. Extremists happen no matter what they represent. PETA, ELF, Branch Davidians. Remember those guys? Yeah they were Christians.
If you show up with your Bible, be prepared to discuss comparisons the Koran as well. The average Christian is unaware that Jesus is in the Koran.
Comment Profile ImageObserver from afar
Comment #51 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:46 am
It looks like some group of fundamentalists wants to suppress other religions. First they attacked the Mormons, now the Muslims.

These people do not understand that the Constitution protects the free exercise of religion and the freedom to assemble. They are a threat to other freedoms, like freedom of expression and the right to privacy as well.
Comment Profile ImageStan
Comment #52 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:47 am
This is simple:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Argument over. Grow up, Temecula - take your community back.
Comment Profile ImageBluespringsMo
Comment #53 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:47 am
Janie,
How many Lutheran missiles have been launched into Israel? Or are there any other Faith based initiatives that come to mind when human shields, body bombs, female repression (to 9th century standards) comes to mind?

Then you can understand why some might be concerned with the neighborhood.
Comment Profile ImageJoe B.
Comment #54 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:53 am
I'm far more afraid of a bunch of authoritarian, xenophobic, theocratic, fascist "Christians" than I am of Muslims who want to just worship in their mosque in peace.

"When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
Comment Profile ImageBaghdaddy
Comment #55 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:56 am
I was in Iraq twice, and Afghanistan twice, and wouldn't be alive right now if it weren't for Muslims who put themselves at tremendous personal risk to protect me. The religious bigotry and sheer ignorance exhibited by the mosque protesters is just shameful. These 'American Taliban' are a recruitment gift to the real jihadists, because it reinforces a rank stereotype of Americans as haters.
Comment Profile ImageElle
Comment #56 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:56 am
@ BluespringsMO

what comes to mind when you ask that question, let's go back to the south, oh say, 30-40 yrs ago and ask that question. Now, I wasn't born then but I do recall fat, white men, dressed as marshmellows, spewing that folks of color didn't belong. And, as they were saying this, they were holding up their bibles. Setting churches on fire because the congregation wasn't white. Burning crosses on people's front lawns, in the name of, yep, wait for it, JESUS.. Now, you can say they were extremists, but then, ya your point makes no sense.
Comment Profile ImagePatronella
Comment #57 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:27 pm
@ BluespringsMO
It's quite apparent that you do not understand that Palestinians are Muslims and Christians, and they are all suffering under the occupation. If you take the time to Google who exactly are the people in Palestine, you will hopefully be ashamed that your tax dollars are being used to repress fellow Christians. All because you remain ignorant of the facts. See http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/will-mainline-american-protestants-give-palestinian-christians-a-voice.html
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Comment Profile ImagePatronella
Comment #58 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:30 pm
@ BluespringsMO
It's quite apparent that you do not understand that Palestinians are Muslims and Christians, and they are all suffering under the occupation. If you take the time to Google who exactly are the people in Palestine, you will hopefully be ashamed that your tax dollars are being used to repress fellow Christians. All because you remain ignorant of the facts. See http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/will-mainline-american-protestants-give-palestinian-christians-a-voice.html
Comment Profile ImagePillai, STL MO.
Comment #59 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:52 pm
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ": Gandhi.
Comment Profile ImageMiHi
Comment #60 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Um, Brigham Young didn't order Mormons to hijack airliners and crash them into towers. Comparisons to LDS are cheap stunts doomed to fail.
Comment Profile ImageSaied
Comment #61 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:25 pm
I oppose building the Islamic Center of Temecula ,

Being from a moslem background, I DO know from close this fake religion, established by a sex-obsessed pathetic, blood-thirsty criminal and liar Mohamed, who tightened a third of the human kind on earth with a lie called Islam, making them middle age minded, hateful, pathetic, anti-civilizations, etc…
This fake religion, that wants to take the world back to the dark ages, and establish the Islamic supremacy where only radical Muslims rule, and no place for Christians, Jews, not even for moderate and free thinker Muslims....What makes me sick, very sad, is to see these western governments being toooooooo permissive with these criminals, tooooo cautious not to hurt their feelings, in order not to be judged as islamophobe or racists, to see mosques growing here and there like mushrooms on the European soils, while Christians are not allowed to congregate even in
Their house (I am taking the Algerian Christians as example, to see those pathetic creatures cursing the western values and ways of life, and endeavoring to spread their shari'a on a land that is not theirs, while the western government stands nearly cross handed in front of such an epidemic...those government are really putting the future of their citizens at stake, by being too permissive with those " monsters"...Please don't look at Islam as any religion, beware of it, it is like cancer, there is no religion on earth that is as dangerous and menacing to you as Islam,...if I were a leader of one of these western countries, I would have banned the building of mosques, and limit the religious freedom to a far extent, I would have watched them from close, and would have chased them back to their countries for the least trial to spread their ideology of hate.

ISLAM is darkness. ISLAM is a dark chapter in human history. Resolutions and condemnations must be passed in UNITED NATIONS - outlawing this evil, criminal, murderous, hateful ideology , theology of ISLAM which was spread by force, rape, murder and destruction, slavery. All the free world, humanists.,
Comment Profile ImageDCSwede
Comment #62 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:20 pm
I am proud of this comments list for standing up to the crazy. The next defense of America will not be made in Iraq or Iran, but here, against the bigots who would have us be less than we are, and give up the freedom that is our birthright. Because the right-wings loons are afraid, they tell us we need to gut the Constitution. Please continue to tell them "No".
Comment Profile Imageagrneydgrl
Comment #63 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Don't lump tea partiers in the same pot. I am a tea partier and I agree with the Constitutionality of them building a Mosque. Why do you people have to throw around labels.
Comment Profile ImageMsty
Comment #64 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:13 pm
While China and India are busy building their economies and wealth sadly some bigots and rascists in America are being immature sick minded. Hate is a disease and it consumes those who hate others for their beliefs and race. Can you not understand this simple equation?

And now we know what happened to the Roman Empire!!
Comment Profile ImageRajinder Nijjhar
Comment #65 | Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Hi,
Remember that Church of God became dominated by the Jews and they corrupted it by bringing in the rotten old Torah. Apostles, mostly Gentile, used to rebuke the Messianic Bishop and they expelled them from their Churches and appointed Presbyters.

That was the start of Matt.12.v43-45 and the killings.

Gentile, Hazrat Mohammed put a resistance to their killing and sorted out the mess. Watch my Youtube Videos for details.
Comment Profile Imagedee
Comment #66 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:13 am
I see there are everyday angels in here. except for a small group of haters. you should be proud as an american. wonder tho', if there's so much peace-loving and humanist people in your country, why your government still go to war?
Comment Profile Imageno more mosques
Comment #67 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:47 am
Kane and all you other Idiots that want to placate the muslim allow me to explain something to you, they don't care about you, they just want to convert you and if they can't they'll kill you because
Human life means nothing to these dirt bags. It says its ok to lie and kill the infedel in the name of their God. Morons guess who the Infedel is...
Just take a look a Ground Zero, life means nothing to the Muslim. If you think only extremist think this way you are wrong. The majority feel like that. They are all about death and reward after death.
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Comment Profile Imageno more mosques
Comment #68 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:48 am
Kane and all you other Idiots that want to placate the muslim allow me to explain something to you, they don't care about you, they just want to convert you and if they can't they'll kill you because
Human life means nothing to these dirt bags. It says its ok to lie and kill the infedel in the name of their God. Morons guess who the Infedel is...
Just take a look a Ground Zero, life means nothing to the Muslim. If you think only extremist think this way you are wrong. The majority feel like that. They are all about death and reward after death.
Comment Profile ImageMahmoud El-Yousseph
Comment #69 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:38 am
upon reading about this Friday protest, I wrote the fellowing below for nationwide publications and distribution. Please read:

The Ignorance of Tea Party Has No End
By Mahmoud El-Yousseph

29 July, 2010

A right-wing group affiliated with the Republican Tea Party in Temecula, California is planning a protest this Friday at the site of a proposed mosque.

The organizers have alerted its members to bring Bibles, dogs, flags, and female singers during Muslim Friday prayer. They argue that Islam is “not a religion”, that Muslims cannot be loyal American citizens and claim they hate and kill dogs and do not allow women to sing. These people are either ignorant or just notorious liars. Here’s why:

–Like is or not, Islam is a monotheistic religion with 1.2 billion followers.

–There are 7 Million Muslim-Americans who are hard working, law abiding citizens of the United States.

–The fact remains, Muslim-Americans are a vibrant part of America; they contribute to our economic growth and serve in our nation’s military. They do love and equally care for America.

–Muslims do believe in all Holy scriptures that preceded Islam including the Old Testament, the Torah, Scrolls of Abraham, all the prophets, Jesus (peace be upon Him) the New Testament, and Judgment Day.

–Muslims neither hate nor kill dogs. They simply consider dogs to be unclean animals. However, the story of the dog is mentioned in Holy Quran: The people of the cave. (Saurat Alkahaf)

–As far as flag is concerned, the Tea Party protesters want to give the wrong impression that Muslims hate Old Glory. That is a lie! The US flag was the first and the last to be saluted by this Muslim veteran of the US Armed Forces.

–Two of the most popular singers that ever lived in the Middle East, were female who have entertained people for nearly 6 decades. One is the late Um Kolthum of Egypt. She is referred to as “The Legend” The other is the Lebanese singer, Fairuz, who is better known as “the lady with the angel’s voice.”

America’s favorite beverage is coffee and not tea. The leader of the tea party is no Sam Adams. The Tea Partygoers are all the conservative chicken hawks who talk tough but don’t have the balls to enlist in the military or to put their own lives on the line for America as this Muslim did many years ago, as well as his oldest son, who served two tours of duty in the “hell on earth” called Iraq.

The truth is, the Tea Party movement is the enemy within. It hates immigrants, supports wars and invasions of other countries, favors corporate America over the working class and it loves hating Muslims.

Take for instance the movement’s shining star, Sara Palin, who last November made a bigoted remark on Fox News during an interview with Sean Hannity while discussing the tragedy at Fort Hood. Mrs. Palin said she’s “all for” profiling Muslims if it saves “innocent American lives.” Wouldn’t those Muslims she’s in favor of profiling be innocent Americans as well?

What she really meant – “I’m all for profiling Muslim – American people if it saves non-Muslim-American lives.”

Can you imagine what an uproar the world would be in if Palin’s remarks were directed toward another religious or ethnic group? Shame on her!

This demagoguery by Mrs. Palin has a threatening and chilling effect on American Muslims like me. Hate speech is what preceded the concentration camps during WWII.

Now the Tea Party is spreading ignorance and bigotry, by harassing American worshipers during prayer in California. That is a clear violation of the basic principle upon which our country was founded–Freedom of Religion. By doing so, it is also tearing down rather uniting Americans.

Red-blooded Americans should be furious and should express their outrage over the Tea Party’s ignorance and bigotry directed toward our fellow Muslim citizens.

No Tea for me! I prefer coffee simply because the ignorance of the Tea Party has no end.

Mahmoud El-Yousseph

Retired USAF Veteran

Feedback: elyousseph6@yahoo.com


"If you think you are too small to be effective, you have never been in bed with a mosquito." Italian Peot - Dante [1265-1321]
Comment Profile ImageYousuf
Comment #70 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:12 am
Wake up and finally smell the good coffee you ... Arejay!!!
Muslims didn't do 911, do some research and you'll find out who did it and benefitted from it??? You pathetic ignorant flattering what have you!!!

Arejay
Comment #6 | Sunday, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:28 pm

Some of the extremists who flew jets into the WTC on 9/11 attended a "mainstream" mosque in San Diego yet none of the mainstream muslems lifted a finger to report their radical views.
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Comment Profile ImageYousuf
Comment #71 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:13 am
Wake up and finally smell the good coffee you ... Arejay!!!
Muslims didn't do 911, do some research and you'll find out who did it and benefitted from it??? You ignorant flattering what have you!!!

Arejay
Comment #6 | Sunday, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:28 pm

Some of the extremists who flew jets into the WTC on 9/11 attended a "mainstream" mosque in San Diego yet none of the mainstream muslems lifted a finger to report their radical views.
Comment Profile ImageWestern Woman
Comment #72 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:36 am
Islam is a Political movement disguised as a religion.
CAIR’s founder, Omar Ahmad, said in 1998 that “Islam isn’t in America
to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran …
should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted
religion on earth.” (San Ramon, CA., Valley Herald, 7/04/1998.)
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Comment Profile ImageWestern Woman
Comment #73 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:45 am
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called “religious rights.”
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to “the reasonable” Muslim demands for their “religious rights,” they also
get the other components under the table.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness.

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street
gangs (Europe, Australia, USA and Japan). Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Muslims won’t integrate into the society but work to build
their own separate community.

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will
increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam
is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

The "Flying Imams," Minneapolis taxi drivers that won't carry passengers with alcohol or seeing-eye dogs, burkhas on driving license photos and foot
washing basins at the Kansas City Airport are all examples of Muslims agitating for the inclusion of Sharia law into federal and state laws.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings).
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning (Albania, the Balkans,
India, Philippines and Israel).

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare (Indonesia).

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as
a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels (Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon and Egypt).

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide (Sudan, Western Papua (New Guinea), Biafra, Turkey and North Nigeria).

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- House of Peace -- as in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.
Comment Profile ImageJuanita
Comment #74 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:54 pm
"IMAM" BLOOMBERG & GROUND ZERO

Mayor "Napoleon" Bloomberg and his backstabbing cronies must have a $tupendou$ rea$on which they can't reveal for wanting a sharia-hugging mosque near Ground Zero!
But the sharia "cobra" they're toying with can quickly grow its fangs and then say "Smile, you're on Candid Scimitar and will soon be buried in a scimitary, ha ha ha!" - proving that one good backstabbing deserves another!
God-haters and America-haters may not realize how high the collective temperature has now risen in the hearts of true American patriots - many of whom are now willing to die for America right here in America if they get pushed completely over the line!
Since the nation's headquarters for treason is the White House, readers can enjoy related material if they Google "Obama Avoids Bible Verses" & "Obama Supports Public Depravity" and also Google "Sandra Bernhard, Larry David, Kathy Griffin, Bill Maher, Sarah Silverman" in addition to Googling "Obama...destined to become a black-slavery avenger."
And by all means visit Googleland and type in "Government-Approved Illegals" and "Un-Americans Fight Franklin Graham."
I hope Mayor Bloomberg, dressed as Napoleon, will thoroughly enjoy his mosquerade party!
PS - Since Jane Fonda still loves leftist causes, here's a one-liner I penned during the Vietnam War era that the big Kansas City paper ran: "I'm not Fonda Jane; her Laosy remarks Hanoi me!"
PPS - Interestingly, many conservative evangelicals have lately given up belief in a "pretribulation rapture" (the 180-year-old, fringe-British-invented, escapist-and-thus-subversive theological aberration behind the rapture bestsellers by Lindsey, LaHaye etc.) and now believe they will be on earth, standing against evil, during at least a portion of Antichrist's diabolical reign. Widely read Google articles like "Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts," "Pretrib Rapture Secrecy" and "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" have helped to bring about this "pretrib" mutiny.

A Kansas Patriot

(I just read the above article on the internet. Losing your head now over the Ground Zero mosque may keep you from losing it later on outside of the mosque! Juanita)
Comment Profile ImageEX-Moslem
Comment #75 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:20 pm
I call moslems to review the Koran honestly and think deeply: 1- Does islamic terrorism please God? 2- Do islamic hatred,vengeance and penaleties according to Sharia Law please God? 3- Did Mohamed,the prophet of islam,act as a godly man in his enormous relationships with women? 4- Was mohamed a real believer of God when he married a 6 years old girl and mate her when she was just a 9 years old girl? 5- Are moslems really proud of the hitory of islam which is full of hatred,killings,terrorism for almost 14 centuries?.
Comment Profile Imagecissie
Comment #76 | Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Western Womqn has it 100% correct..America open your eyes to what is happening in this world today...so many have been decieved by political corectness...not only our nation but the world in it's entirety is in jeporady...

Yes, it feels good to portray yourself as tolerant...but it flys in the face of the facts as they are in this world today...Wake up!!
Comment Profile ImagePeter Wolfe
Comment #77 | Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:32 am
I'll be the first one to admit that I'm not from the L.A or the Californian state in general. However, I've lived in Las Vegas, Nevada and numerous other major cities in the U.S. Not all christians act this way and to sink to such a level would be horrible. People are just rightfully anxious over the 9-11 with the twin wars abroad threatening their culture and traditions in their possessed nation they have held for so many generations. They neglect the abuses with wrong doings they entail as well. There are things that I feel that christians with other faiths should undergo funding transparency and accountability of denouncing extermism for the protection of our great nation. If you have nothing to hid, you wouldn't care if the government saw your stream flow of cash going from point a to point b right? This has been from all accounts been a recent issue in the states to Saudi Arabian terror cells abroad.
I'm not going to generalize all muslims into one group even if I disagree with them though. We should study the affects throughly in Europe in our context of governess and people in a democracy to see if we are fully compatable first. Large scale immigration should be haulted till such a full comprehensive research should happen cause we have seen in the past with conquests by our very own ancestors in Europe did to my ancestors of native america. We don't want to continue down the wrong path anymore. My main objections are support of terrorism by funds covert or uncovert, banning of pork products, forced conversations, use of head veils by women (e.g. hijab, nikab, and burkas) and anything else that would deleted not add to our original tennants of our U.S Constitution. Till such a time we should limit importation of muslim immigrants to aire on the side of caution. We are talking mainly third to fourth worlds according to the World's Systems Theory of Dependence where education is little praised or recognized of descending points of view (e.g. Saudi Arabia or Iran) of others rights and benefits as human beings. Would you sell your country out so fast for the sake of diversity without looking at the long term affects on future genrations? This is why I think liberalism could potentially gobble itself up into a big fire ball one day cause it contridicts itself in the end. For example, feminism compared to sharia law.
In conclusion, people have the freedom of assembly to protest in nonviolence towards anything. Remember the Civil Rights Movement from Selma to Montgomery to Washington D.C? So, they have their other one being freedom of speech and any right impeeding anyone elses right is null and void according to my studies in law. national security with solidarity and destruction of ghetto segregated areas with little to no interaction should expressively be forbidden immediately. It only blooms hostality in the end with endless distrust with inner faith dialogue could be a start to educate one another about each others core principles on common ground to build towards peace in your communities. Don't move too fast cause once you go there, you may never return from wence you had come though. Good luck with your PC experiment all that being the same. Hopefully your optimism on paper could become reality but in Euorpe the signs are ominous overall.
Comment Profile ImageJacob
Comment #78 | Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:44 pm
So, how did the temper tantrum go? Did anyone bring cookies?
Comment Profile ImageNeed the truth
Comment #79 | Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:56 pm
To "Ex Muslim", you probably have alot of truth to share. Please do!!! I think we are completely ignorant of the real ideologies in the Muslim religion. Yes, I'm sure there are many decent Muslims, (nice).....what does that have to do with the teachings that are telling them to kill all who are NOT Muslim? YOU KNOW the truth....and there's a reason you left the faith. Very good questions you have asked...Thank you for bringing that to our attention. Something to investigate and ponder.
Comment Profile ImageRudemeister
Comment #80 | Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Muslims frequently try to blame the west for the supposed aggression of the Crusades. This is revisionist history. The crusades were a defensive response to Muslim hegemony which was in the process of the attempted conquering of the whole of Europe. There were 2 expansions into Europe by Muslim invaders. The first was started by the Arab Muslims in the seventh century. Much of southern Europe had fallen by the sword of Islam. Had Charles the Hammer not stopped them in France, they would have continued this conquest. Then with the birth of the Ottoman Empire, the Turks took up the sword of Allah to continue the conquest of Europe by Islam. The Ottomans marched over the Balkans and much of Eastern Europe on this conquest. It was not till Polish King Sobieski stopped the Ottoman advance into Europe at The Gates of Vienna battle in 1683.

Islam is a system of political and religious philosophy that seeks world domination by any means possible. This has been mostly by military means. Mohammad was a child molesting, blood thirsty warlord that invented a religion to spur on his troops. The Koran is fiction. The system of Islam only recognizes military might. Anybody that doesn't think the present wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are not the continuance of an old war of civilizations is either misinformed or deluded.

Jesus Christ! King of Kings and Lord of Lords!

There, I said it. This could get my head sawed off in certain places, ya know.
Comment Profile Imageignorance is not bliss
Comment #81 | Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:45 am
For all you freedom of speech, religion, blah blah blah... why don't we open a satanic place of worship right next to the mosque that way when the kids get out of Chaparral High School.. they can walk down nicolas road and see what a ridiculous joke the interpretation of our Constitution has turned into ..Our Country was founded on ONE NATION UNDER GOD... NOT ANY OTHER DEITY. How can anyone deny that?? If YOU are offended by this. GO live in the country that believes in your "religion", stop complaining and protesting against CHRISTMAS and our religious holidays, THAT IS OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT. If you are a muslim living in OUR COUNTRY you should go back to your own country. Stop wearing your little sheets on your head and stop buying our land... because you will never be AMERICAN. And all you ignorant people that protest everything...leave with them please..
Comment Profile ImageWestern Woman
Comment #82 | Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Directed at post #13. "Islam is the oldest religion on the earth sent by the Creator of the Universe".

No, it is not. Educate yourself.
Comment Profile ImageEmily
Comment #83 | Sunday, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Kudos to you, Robaby! It's about time that "kind and gentle" Christianity got a taste
of their own medicine.
Comment Profile ImageConstitutional Conservative
Comment #84 | Monday, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:54 pm
As a resident of Corona a few miles north of Temecula, I hope my conservative neighbors will reconsider their actions against the building of the mosque. American conservatives in the religious community have a lot more in common with the good people who worship in the mosque than they think. Muslims have been quietly gathering and worshipping at that site for years in peace, so there is no reason to berate them now because they want to build a bigger complex. And not all Muslims have an agenda to promote Sharia law. Some even recognize that it might be incompatible with the bill of rights.

The first amendment was written by far-sighted, careful thinkers. I hope we Americans of all stripes can stand behind it and adhere to our better angels in giving blessings instead of condemnations to the Temecula mosque. (The Cordoba House mosque at the World Trade Center is a much more complicated can of worms due to the significance of 911 and the PR spin it will have for Islamofascists who may use it as propaganda and cause futher pain on those who suffered.)
Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #85 | Saturday, Aug 7, 2010 at 8:43 pm
The Muslim religion is barbaric and has not evolved. Women are still considered property and have no rights. Why would any woman defend this so called peaceful religion?
Comment Profile ImageMarksy
Comment #86 | Sunday, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:17 am
Look up "Recall Bloomberg Now"
Comment Profile Imagemmm
Comment #87 | Monday, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Over 9o% of muslims are consevative and have voted in large numbers with the republican party. So have my family of six. At our mosque (Los Angeles) it was said that the republican party is a party of hate and almost all of them are racist against whites, blacks, others and now the muslims and we are not to vote for the party of hate(republicans). Every time there is a congressman or a talk show host that is against a mosque or muslims it is always a representitive of the party of hate(republican). So my dear muslim brothers and sisters do not vote for republicans cause you are voting for the enemies of muslims and freedom and allah will punish you.
Temecula is a very racist(pro Kkk) city a few years ago they did not want the mormons to have a church because it was not their kind of christianity.
Comment Profile ImageJJ
Comment #88 | Tuesday, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Islam is not a religion but a complete system of government that has its own militaristic religious judicial laws etc.

Watch the movie Islam: what the west needs to know

UPDATE: There is no Islamophobia only Islamorealism

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.: “Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table.Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2. 7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Isla mic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.. www.frontline.org.za/bo oks_videos/sti.htm

Comment Profile ImageEvad the Slayer
Comment #89 | Saturday, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:23 am
Try building a Christian church in, say, Saudi Arabia. You won't get very far. They are not allowed. In many Moslem countries residents are outright persecuted for believing in anything other than Islam. It "looks like" and "smells like" a peaceful religion. But, alas, the proof is in the details and it's followers are anything but. Where are the so-called moderate Muslims when their brethren are blowing up tourists and non-combatants?
Comment Profile ImageGeoTrin
Comment #90 | Monday, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:33 pm
There are very few here that have put forth some serious objections to Judaism and Christianity. I would like to know how many of those here that are down right hostile to these two faiths really know what they are really all about. I saw some passages quoted here that are very difficult to read and at times explain in their context and the key word is context. But you know something? I am willing to bet that even if I or someone else were to take the time to explain the context these people are just going to hate Judaism and Christianity no matter what evidence, explanation, or reason you give them. I know this because I've had many discussions with people like this and or I have seen very well educated people debate the issues. Nevertheless, you are entitled to your opinions whether informed or not.
My real purpose for posting my comment was to respond to the August 6 article regarding this issue. I found it interesting that Mr Jeff Schwimmer, a Jew and Ms Kathleen Hamilton, a Catholic are supporters of the proposal. I personally don't care what religious back ground you have, we all have the right to support who we want. But I wonder do these two realize that their support is not truly welcome by the Muslim religion, by Islamists in the larger percent of the world? Is Mr Schwimmer aware of the fact that being a Jew alone would get him killed in most Muslim countries even if he was 'standing up' for "tolerance and respect" for the Muslim religion? Is Ms Hamilton aware that if she had done what she did, slipping "inside to join the worship service" of a mosque in a Muslim country that she would be imprisoned and possibly put to death for desecrating the place? I've been to some of the more moderate Muslim countries, the ones who are supposed to be our allies. Believe me, that would not save Ms Hamilton even in these countries. So, for those of you who love to charge Christianity and Judaism for being cruel, hate-mongering, religions and drank the cool ade about a peace loving Islamic religion, that teaches compassion, freedom, love, etc. do your homework.
Comment Profile Imagewoman
Comment #91 | Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:55 am
Will women be discriminated against in this mosque? Will they be able to worship alongside men in modern clothing? Will people of all faiths be welcome to worship there?
Comment Profile Imageex repubican Voter
Comment #92 | Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:00 am
Dear muslim brothers and sisters. I agree with mmm it is always the republicans and the conservatives who are haters of blacks, mexicans and now muslims. Every time a mosque is proposed it is the right wingers and republicans who are against 23 mosques in U.S. It will be against our beloved religion and allah to vote for the enemies of muslims in this case the republicans and tea party members. Since 911 every time time their have been a racist comment against muslims it is always the bigotted republican party.
Comment Profile ImageJim
Comment #93 | Friday, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:57 am
So where is the money coming from to build this $3 million plus mosque? It is not coming from the few families that live in the area. Follow the money. Will sharia law come next? I know Temecula isn’t the most modern city in the world but to drive it back to the 5th century is a bit much.
Comment Profile Imageopen your eyes
Comment #94 | Monday, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Can we build a church in Iran? Why?
Comment Profile ImageDG
Comment #95 | Tuesday, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:02 am
I'm actually amazed for once and not completely embarrassed to live in the inland empire. I guess there are a lot of people here who understand the constitution guarantees religious freedom including Muslims. We protect religious minorities in this country. You are free to worship your Christian false gods. Muslims are free to worship their Muslim false gods. I am free to worship no God because its painfully obvious to me that he does not exist. Do you really think an all-powerful, all-knowing, perfect being would have created something as imperfect and flawed as humans? That being said I believe you should all be able to believe and do what you want as long as you don't hurt other people. You protesters to this mosque are actually hurting other people. The number of non-believers in this country has doubled in the past 10 years and non-religion is the fastest growing of all measured categories. At some point we will be the majority and you Christians better hope the other future non-believers feel the same way I do about religious freedom.
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Comment Profile ImageDG
Comment #96 | Tuesday, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:10 am
@Open your eyes
Is Iran the standard you want to hold yourself to? Is the United States not better than the countries of Iran and Saudi Arabia? Because they don't allow religious freedom in those countries do you want to shred everything our Constitution has guaranteed for 234 years. It is the first amendment... that means the founders thought it was the single most important one. GUARANTEE of religious freedom. I am glad we are not like Iran,Saudi Arabia, or China and I hope we never start acting like those countries because I do think we are better than that. I'm sure you Christians would love to force everyone in this country to practice Christianity, but that is about the most un-American idea you can think.
Comment Profile ImageWG
Comment #97 | Tuesday, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:18 am
Freedom of Religion was changed to mean any religion goes. Thats not what the constitution means. It means No King will preside over any "Christian" Church and tell People what the bible means. With that said, Islam is FOREIGN to us, Islam does not belong in america. Mormons called themselves christian and so did JW's so they can "Get around the loophole that was in the 1800's and start halls and stakes" Now, it dont matter, as long as you paint "religion" on it, bring it in, oh, unless you wanna "Christian" church in the wine (whine) country, then its different. Bottom line: Islam will not stop in America till they Replace sharia law with the already bullet -- hole'd constitution... I say "Pig bacon" to that.
Comment Profile ImageCrazy Commie
Comment #98 | Friday, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:59 pm
This is hardly a surprise as anyone who has spent time in Temecula knows its a hotbed of conservative republican ignorance. "Freedom of religion" is really "Freedom to practice what religion I think is the right one" in their minds. I guarantee if this gets built it will be vandalized to the point of no return.
Comment Profile ImageDS
Comment #99 | Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Anyone who actually BELIEVES this religion is one of peace isn't doing their research! And these people are not an honorable sort. Anything goes with them in their efforts to gather converts. Make no mistake, their intent is to infiltrate and take over the US using our own laws against us. They're not stupid! The Saudis have poured millions of dollars into our education system. They know they have to get the young and unrooted to advance the Islamic agenda. Stand up and stand firm against Islam.
Comment Profile ImageBan Christianity
Comment #100 | Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:35 pm
If Islam is banned because it's a religion of hate, Christianity is just as guilty.

The witch trials, the Russian pogroms, the religious purges under Emperor Diocletian, the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, the Holocaust, Christians perpetrated them all.

The Unibomber was Christian. The murderous Hutaree militia was Christian. Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy were Christians.

The Bible repeatedly encourages its readers to commit all sorts of horrors, especially to spread the reader's religion.

So, according to the tea baggers line of reasoning, we should tear down all the churches.
Comment Profile ImageAhkira
Comment #101 | Friday, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:03 am
i feel that there is no reason why the Muslims can not build a Mosque. You wouldnt tell Christians that it isnt ok to build a church. If the concern is that there will massive killings because that is what the religion believes in. That is entirely inaccurate beacuse it is not the religion that kills people people kill people. There are christian that also kill people look at the Ku Klux Klan their philosophy was to rid the world of anyone who did not ressembly the white arian race. Majority of them were christian and made numerous claims that god did not want those people on earth. how is it not the same? cant think of a reason? its because it is the same it is unacceptable for anyone to kill people kill people just so happens some of them try to use their religion to get out of it. i think as long as the Mosque is not violating any of the Temecula city laws it is ok for them to build a building on the property they have owned for over 10 years.
Comment Profile ImageDaniel
Comment #102 | Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:30 am
Before you make any comment you need to educate yourself about these people and what their doing around the world and been doing here in the U.S.A. They hate us CHRISTIANS. Make no mistake about it. . All we can do is pray for them! Asking the LORD JESUS to come into their hearts and transform their minds. AMEN!! The truth the way and the life. No one comes to the father,but thought our lord JESUS. Believe it or not you can't change the truth! And the truth will set you free.
Comment Profile Imagechrist
Comment #103 | Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:09 am
Hi let me just say you don't even know christ ! Your people hated him back than and you'll persecute us today, just as christ said, christ jesus cannot lie he is truth, the only way to heaven is thru christ, the truth is Jesus has to call you to him, only the chosen ones are in the book of life! I will pray for you. Brother
Comment Profile ImageNon-muslim
Comment #104 | Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:14 pm
I lived in Saudi Arabia for 24 months and I can tell you this much that almost every single one of the people I met (I am talking about the educated ones) HATED us AMERICANS with great deal of passion. We are considered to be the infadels they thrive in killing.

Throughout my stay there, I had nothing else to do (no freedom, no movie theaters, no parks to go to, etceteras) but to read few pages of the book KORAN. Be warned, careful and scared of them. These are same PEACEFUL people that when they hear their book being burned, they threaten to KILL. They CLAIM they are the good guys but I see none of them going after THEIR bad brothers.

Isalm is so centered to hatred, sexuality and punishment. You hardly see love and kindness. Women are treated like dirt (in this life) and are claimed to be more of a slave in afterlife (i.e. one of the 72 virgins). Women are here to SERVE men/their husband. They are approved, by their Book to leave the parents house as a bride as soon as they are able to get pregnant. Daughters, at times, are promised to much older guys (e.g. 60+ YO) for marriage at age of 6 but they don;t let go of the poor girl till the age the doctor (MAN of SCIENCE mind you) to allow such event take place (i.e. old enough to get pregnant) SICK, SICK, SICK!!!

Give them an inch and they all for the entire foot. Shari law is next. We already have two incidences in USA about what they call HONOR KILLING. Fathers killing/murdering their kids because they wanted to leave the religion. Husbands beating wives and etceteras.

Our CHRISTIAN forefathers gave us the freedom of speech as well as religion but this CULT will not be honored as religion. No religion or God will allow or tolerate murder where these guys are allowed to kill for this supposed religion. They are allowed to LIE as long as they are defending the religion. This is not a religion. Please don't find shelter behind our Constitution.

Be careful people, be careful!!!
Comment Profile ImageNotfoolingme
Comment #105 | Thursday, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:24 pm
The person claiming they are an ex-"Moslem" and then listing how evil Islam OS is a liar. If you really were Muslim you would have typed "Muslim" not "moslem".
Also as an actual Muslim I can tell you we were never taught to hate others and all that negative stuff.

Also on a random note want to know what I learned at Islamic school?
We had a class in Islamic Studies and read stories about each Prophet we discussed Islam and the 5 pillars of Islam. No we didn't talk about hating other people who aren't Muslim. I never knew people thought like the extremists did until 9/11. Those terrorists...Very un-Islamic if you ask me or any other true Muslim.
Anyway...we had a Quranic class as well. Where we just had to read Arabic and also had to learn how to pray bc the way Muslims pray have many steps.
We used to have pageants once in awhile where we'd have plays and we'd sing.
It was fun times on Saturday's at my Islamic school and everyday was open house and still is. Anyone of any faith or no faith at all is welcome to walk in and hang out and ask questions.
I think it's crazy that people think we hate non-Muslims and that women aren't treated equally and whatnot.
I'm a woman and every woman in my family is a career woman who can also drive by the way. Shocker. I know.
Comment Profile ImageMaryEllen
Comment #106 | Thursday, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:01 pm
I just returned from Greece where Christianity began - the Muslins were burning christian churches and harrassing anyone who was not muslin - I was so afraid I stayed in my hotel room - they were out to make Greece 100% Muslin and the same will happen here - I heard that there are several hundred muslins that our government moved from Iraq to San Diego - you know these people will move up to Temecula to be near th new mosque - I was scared to death of the way they were talking about American tourists and they will do the same thing here in this lovely vity of ours.
Comment Profile ImageHindu posters
Comment #107 | Saturday, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I notice a lot of hindu posters inflaming passions against Muslims, these shameful hindus should be ashamed of themselves as there are many decent hindu families i know of, but there are always a few rotten eggs that cannot ignore throwing some lies at Muslims, their hatred for Muslims probably comes from the fact that Muslims ruled India for over a millenium and the hatred is deep inside their core, this hatred is also reserved for the Christians and tribals who refuse to convert to hinduism.

Its a shame because many hindus live in Middle Eastern muslim nations with successful businesses,so stop hiding behind western names because your hateful comments expose you plainly.
Comment Profile Imagedenise
Comment #108 | Thursday, May 5, 2011 at 4:58 pm
i am very opposed to this islamic mosque being built, even though we all bleed red, we have proof of the most dangerous radical terriost, being involved, like for instance anwar al-alweki this man had ties to the n.virginia mosque, we as americans need to protect our country. and yes we have freedom of religion, BUT if that religon is going to hurt our country, then we must put our country first and stop these actions, we were founded on such principles that has kept us so bleesed. ONE NATION UNDER GOD indivisible with liberty and justice for all. and we are to treat everyone with respect and dignity. all i see in forgien countries is how they want to see us destroyed,and the hate they diplay towards us makes me know that they will do anything to try to over throw our country. so think again and pray, do you want our country to have sheria law? there already trying to get it passed. it is our right and our duty to protect this country from forien or domestic terrorist.
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Comment Profile Imagedenise
Comment #109 | Thursday, May 5, 2011 at 5:09 pm
i am against this mosque being built
Comment Profile Imagebrian
Comment #110 | Thursday, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I just returned from Greece where Christianity began - the Muslins were burning christian churches and harrassing anyone who was not muslin - I was so afraid I stayed in my hotel room - they were out to make Greece 100% Muslin and the same will happen here - I heard that there are several hundred muslins that our government moved from Iraq to San Diego - you know these people will move up to Temecula to be near th new mosque - I was scared to death of the way they were talking about American tourists and they will do the same thing here in this lovely city of ours.



Why do we not see this on our televisions????????????
Our Media is controlled we are sheep
Comment Profile ImageKarima K
Comment #111 | Friday, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:32 pm
I was born in a moderately muslim country where a moderate number of mosques were built and women did not cover themselves. However, after a wave of terrorism in the 90s everything changed the mosque number grew ten times most of the women are covered and when I go visit I have to have a special outfit. Is that what you want for America? This is my adoptive country and I will never let this happened here. Muslims are always nice when they are not in power but wait and see.
Comment Profile ImageJoanne - Temecula
Comment #112 | Monday, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:16 pm
America does have religious freedom, It is the land of the free and the home of the brave, We should not be naive just because we think all people are equal! The very book they say they live by, calls Americans and others INFIDALS!!!!!! They are crying racism while they are the biggest raciists of all! The Muslim religion is antagonistic to our people, our way of life and our liberties!! They treat women as just above dogs. Where are their rights? Also, Friday traffic is a nightmare the way it is! Their "worship" would make that areas streets be at a stand-still. We have a school there, no one would be able to get in or out of there for hours. I AM SO HAPPY TO BE AN AMERICAN AND I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT AT THE VERY CORE WOULD DESTROY IT IF THEY COULD.
Comment Profile ImageLili
Comment #113 | Tuesday, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:31 pm
WOW!!! My husband and I were looking at Temecula as a place to buy a home and move our business to from NY state. I think it is beautiful in Temecula, but now I'm not so sure. My husband and I are pagan. Actually, to be more precise I am an ordained Druid high priestess. So was my mother and my grandmother, and my grandfather and so on for literally a thousand years. I am from Ireland and my family like some others converted to x-ianity in name only. Part of WHY we are moving to Cali is because I am SICK of being threatened for my religious views. Yes you heard me right, I was told if I did tarot readings at the local farmers market I would be tied to a tree and lynched. DO I NEED TO WRITE TEMECULA OFF MY LIST BECAUSE YOUR GOOD X-TIANS will come to my house and threaten me? I'm truly saddened by this knowledge. People should do there homework before condemning others whose religion they know nothing of
Comment Profile ImageTem resident
Comment #114 | Wednesday, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:22 pm
yes, please don't move here Lili.

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